You're welcome to repost my comments if you wish.

The 'Thank you' convention is rather silly, not in the sense that there shouldn't be a recognised way to end a dance if you feel uncomfortable continuing, but to choose to 'thank' your partner does seem a strange choice of words.

As for the embrace, the convention is that the follower chooses how close she wants to be to the leader. The most traditional embrace, which really is rather more of a hug than it is a 'hold' is very close, with body contact at the upper chest and with the arms rather loosely around each other and with the elbows close to the body and down. Not every follower is comfortable with this degree of physical contact, and sometimes a more open embrace (very like that adopted for Latin American dancing) is chosen instead. The convention is that the leader invites to follower take an embrace, and she determines how close it will be. Not respecting her freedom in this regard is one of the most common reasons to say 'thank you' and leave.

A Tango cannot be danced as it should be danced if there is any space between the partnership. The mans right palm should be on the ladies spine which if we are miles apart will not be possible.

To dance correctly whether it be Tango or any of the other Modern Ballroom Dances
the positioning of the bodies is very close. There lies the problem between Social Dancing and Competition Dancing. No problem if in Social dancing the pair know each other very well and have attended classes. But if they are complete strangers. Need I say more. Those two sections mentioned are worlds apart. Ladies Social or not... keep your head looking to your left unless the step is going to be in Promenade.

Hi Peter
Thank you for the information about joyce hayward
I met Joyce many years ago at Sherry's ballroom in brighton but lost touch - I am sorry to hear of her passing as I always intended to try and find out what happened to her when she retired from professional dancing - I would be grateful if you have any information that would be of interest to me -such as returning to ballroom etc.
Sorry to have been so long replying to your message - I am not very computer literate.
Ron Miles

I am so sorry to hear of Joyce haywards death so long ago. I used to teach at her studio in Harrow and often wonder about everybody and how their lives are. I would love to hear from anybody who was around then and to know if they still dance!

There are few of "us" on the forum.

Joyce Haywood retired from competition dancing and retired as she was about to be married.
I only met her once at her fathers studio in Harrow. I did see her many times competing with Sonny Binick the last time in 1953